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5.05.2003
Thursday, April 3, 2003 part one
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Hang on here, folks. I -- just reading something that just got cleared from the -- printer.
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Rush-LNMW: Well. How about that? Interesting. Very interesting.
Greetings, my friends, and welcome. It's great to have you with us. We are off and running here on another three hour excursion into broadcast excellence on the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies. I am you host, the all knowing, the all caring, the all sensing, all feeling, all concerned maja rushie sitting firmly here in the prestigious Atilla the Hun chair. Behind the golden EIB microphone. Phone number, if you'd like to join us, is 800-282-2882. The email address, rush@eibnet.com.
Evidence has been found in the Kurdish controlled regions of northern Iraq that the Islamic militant group Ansar al-Islam was working on three types of chlorine gas and ricin, and has ties to al Qaeda. This from U.S. officials. The Fox News official said between seventy five and a hundred and fifty al Qaeda members have been captured of killed in northern Iraq in recent days. Al Qaeda members. Killed or captured where? Northern Iraq.
I thought this was not the war on terrorism, the left said -- do you realize how morally bankrupt the whole left has become? Do you realize what this war, this - entire war on terrorism has totally unmasked for who they are. Now you've got John Kerry up there -- this -- is deranged. I don't know how else to describe this. But you've got John Kerry up there saying that -- pResident Bush committed a breach of trust in the eyes of many United Nations members by going to war with Iraq.
Creating a diplomatic chasm that will not be bridged as long as Bush remains in office. What we need now is not just a regime change in Saddam Hussein and Iraq. But we need a regime change in the United States. This is, this is, this is sheer lunacy, the -- this is –
Thursday, April 3, 2003. 00:05:00. [02: Galen] [edit]
Yeah, Hans Blix knows where to look, now. Go to northern Iraq with his inspectors.
This John Kerry thing is deranged. These people are, have been totally knocked off their center, compass, whatever they use to keep themselves, you know, in the middle of the road. I mean, they're gone. These people are just erratically driving all - there's nobody at the wheel of the giant liberal automobile anymore, giant liberal SUV. There's nobody driving it. A bunch of people in the back seat trying to wrest control of the steering wheel.
This is unbe- Regime change? In the United States? And on the basis that we committed a breach of trust in the eyes of many United Na- Senator Kerry, you're running for the wrong office! You need to be running for Secretary General of the United Nations! And we'll nominate you for that job right after we make a move to get the United Nations relocated to some other country. And then we can send you there and you can run it, you can worry all day long about the breach of trust of the UN.
You can spend your days trying to make sure that nations around the world love each other and so forth and like each other. But I'll tell you what we're concerned about, Senator Kerry, and that's whether the nations of the world respect us. It is far more important that we are respected. We have - This is - This is classic human nature 101. The voices of typical liber-babble: "They don't love us anymore. We've got to have regime change here so the rest of the world loves us."
Hell, while he's saying this, half the world's coming around and agreeing with us now. Uh, the Germans are getting close. Not quite as it's been reported, although Joschka Fischer, the foreign minister, has come out and firmly said, "Alright, alright, we're for the U.S., now, we've, we've. . ." and Gerhard Schroder is as close as you can get to that without actually saying it.
So, I, this, this is unbelievable. I'm happy he said it. Don't misunderstand this. I still haven't gotten to the point of outrage - "how dare they!" I think this is classic. I think this is fabulous. Let people like John Kerry keep talking, keep saying this stuff, keep acting like you want to be president of the United Nations, keep acting like you think the job of the President of the United States is to keep those clowns, those thugs, those dictators, those oddballs at the UN happy with us, and we'll be waving goodbye to your whole political career inside of two years, Senator Kerry.
The lights are off in Baghdad, finally. The electricity is off. The only lights you can see are automobiles. We're on the outskirts of, we're in Baghdad, now. The various elements of our forces that are actually in Baghdad. The main thrust of our movement is still about four to six miles away.
And I'm sitting here, watching this, and I think there was another announcement, within the past five or six hours from that oddball defense ministry guy. What are these people doing? Do they know we're not coming? Do they not know we're coming? What are they doing? Are they even in Baghdad? That's the question. Are they even in Baghdad, issuing these announce-? Something here is really odd. [Owen?SP 3.00] is really odd.
These guys can not just be sitting around waiting to be captured. I'm beginning to wonder if Hussein, whether he's dead, whether he's alive, whether he's incapacitated, is even in Baghdad. These guys are not acting like they're in Baghdad. It's only a matter of time for these guys if they're still there. They're issuing orders like, "Fight them with your hands." What is that? Fight them with your hands while these guys are somewhere buried in a bunker? Where they don't think they're ever going to be fine, while these poor Iraqis citizens, "Fight them with your hands."?
By the way, everything that was predicted is coming true. They are greeting us. They are happy that we're arriving. They are ecstatic, these Iraqis. When we destroy Baath party headquarters in these towns, that's when these people feel free, to welcome us, as it was predicted that they would. By the way, the news channels are all speculating, "We can't say for sure that the electricity being off in Baghdad is accidental, or whether or not coalition forces have taken it." Come on. Isn't it rather obvious we're making our move into Baghdad? Wouldn't it make sense we would turn out the lights? We're the ones with the night-vision goggles.
Oh, you think these Baghdad officials have been sniffing too much of their chemicals? I don't know, but something's very weird about this. Something, and here they are making announcements the Iraqi people, "You will prevail. God is great! We will be victorious. Repel the aggressors. Fight them with your hands." We are hours away here, from taking the city.
Oh, I know, they're saying we're nowhere near Baghdad. That we haven't done what we've, I know. It's surreal. It's just, it really is surreal.
Well, all of this will be made clear in mere moments. The President went to Camp Lejeune today. Camp Lejeune is the Marine base where more of our casualties have come from than any other single base. More of our casualties, injuries and deaths
Thursday, April 3, 2003. 00:10:00. [03: Drew] [edit]
This is the third visit by the President to a military installation. And it was a quite uplifting speech. In fact I loved - I loved the opening line. One of the opening lines is that "There's no finer sight than 12,000 United States marines and corpsmen, unless you happen to be a member of the Iraqi Republican Guard." And there were just cheers.
Have you read the stories about this [Private First Class] Jessica Lynch from West Virginia? Is this not - is this not just - folks, I'm gonna tell you this is just so heartwarming, and to us - now, all of us on this program, when we read about [Private First Class] Jessica Lynch, and we find out who she is and what she's made of and how tough she is, and we see the interviews with her family in West Virginia - we're not surprised.
We know that this is America. We know that these are the people who make this country work.
It's - some of this is actually a surprise to some of these east coast elites who are finally getting a taste of or an exposure to just who these people are and their mettle and how tough they are. I mean, even the guys that rescued her, one guy said - you know, I - this woman is tiny, apparently - she's just - but not frail, obviously not frail, but very tiny. This one guy said, "I'm over six feet and 200 pounds, and I don't think I could have done what she did."
She fired until she had no ammo left. She probably killed some Iraqis if not inflicted injuries, all the while having suffered two broken legs and gunshot wounds. And she was stabbed, too. She just refused to give up.
And they flew her to Ramstein last night on a C-17. She would - she would not talk about it on the flight. She didn't want - she didn't want to talk about it. And if you've seen interviews with her parents and her brother, I mean, they're just - they're just happy with their little girl. They're just - they're just thrilled as punch down there in old Wert County, West Virginia. They're just as happy as they could be that she's alive, and they're extremely proud of her.
There was a - there's a piece circulating around, I guess it was first spotted by people on the Wall Street Journal's website, and piece - The Best of the Web Today - James Taranto's piece. And there's a - it's a - it's a great story about Martin Savage, the CNN reporter. Have you heard about this Mr. - Let me tell you about this story. This is - the title of this story is - "Where do they get kids?" "Where do they find kids like this?" Here's the story:
Martin Savage is an embed reporter with some marines somewhere - and might be army, I'm not sure - might be the third infantry or the marines, I'm not sure - but at any point, he got permission from the camp commander to let four of the marines call home to their parents on his satellite phone.
So he rounded up the four, and the first - he's got all four in there - says, "Okay, which of the - which of you wants to be first to call home?" 19-year-old soldier raises, says, "Sir, if it's all the same to you, I would like for my platoon commander to make my call. His wife is pregnant, and he hasn't talked to her in three months. Would you mind if" - Martin Savage got a little teary. Got a little teary, says "No, that'll be fine."
So this 19-year-old kid runs off to find is platoon commander. Of the three that are remaining, Martin Savage says, "Okay, which of the three of you would like to be the first to call home?" And one of them says, "Sir, if it's all the same to you, we would like to call the parents of one of our buddies who was killed." And at that point, Martin Savage just lost it. He just broke down started crying, and said, "Where do they find kids like this."
Well, these are the people that make America work. This is the value of the embeds. Nothing against Martin Savage here, please don't misunderstand, but to him, apparently this is something he - apparently he - had not encountered before, and this made a huge impression on - these kids, these soldiers made an impression on him that apparently had not been made on his before. The selflessness of it. And he was beside himself. Broke down in tears. They wanted to call the parents of a buddy to see how the parents were doing, because this guy had been killed. [indistinct]
And it just make everybody proud as they can be, but it illustrates the value of the embeds - these reporters who are seeing these - reporters obviously from the various elements of the culture here that we would call the elite - academians, journalists, and so forth. And they're seeing people from flyover country. They're seeing people from the red states. And they're finding out who it is that really comprises this country.
It isn't people like this asinine professor at Columbia, who wants to see a million Mogadishus. It isn't all these people on the protest march who are risking nothing. Who are pretending to die.
Thursday, April 3, 2003. 00:15:00. [04: Kim] [edit]
...as people are risking their lives for real in Iraq. It isn't those people- it isn't you people in the peace movement that define this country and make it what it is.
It's people like Jessica Lynch, and it's people like these four Marines or soldiers- again, I'm not sure which- Martin Savage encountered. And it's not unique- it's not unique, it's who these people are. We've also found that this kid, Steven Funk, that uh, went AWOL or wanted- not AWOL, conscientious objector, is gay.
He's gay- he finally came out and admitted he's gay, so- so. Um, anyway- there's alot to do here, folks. As we- we've got soundbites from the President's speech today. I want to, uh- I've got a little point to make about- you know, everybody's still concerned. It's a play on this John Kerry too, we need regime change- the United Nations, we need to get back the love of the world. What the hell is this?
And- and the thing I want to discuss here is this notion that people keep throwing up. Why does the Arab street hate us? A quick break, my friends. We'll be back and resume- with *inaudible* of the program after this.
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Thursday, April 3, 2003. 00:20:00. [05: Kim] [edit]
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Rush: Oh-hoh, this is unbelievable. I just scanned an e-mail during the- the EIB operational pause. I fou- two e-mails I found- there may be more, but I found two e-mails on Jessica Lynch.
One, uh- I'm not even going to bother to read it verbatim, it's from some guy excoriating me for believing this PC business, that she actually was rescued. It's obvious the Iraqi's released her and the Army is making up this story for PR reasons and I'm an idiot for falling for it.
Listen to this, this is even better- "Come on Rush, how could you take the report concerning the alleged bravery of Jessica Lynch without the evidence to back it up. While Ms. Lynch may be deserving of the praise being heaped upon her as a hero, time will tell. I'm dismayed that you would be so beguiled to believe newspaper accounts of her actions without seeing the evidence."
"In other words, how do we know whether she did all that that was claimed by her or others, especially seeing that all her comrades are dead. Come on Rush, don't let your patriotism be tainted by what might be an attempt by the PC crowd to seek further advances of women in the military. Wake up."
Do you believe that? Lemme tell you something, I thought about this women in the military angle. So you know what I did? I went to the NAGS (?) website and there's no mention of Jessica Lynch anywhere near NAGS website. Jessica Lynch is not the kind of babe that the NAGS are interested in. Do you know what the number one deal on the NAGS website is? This stupid Augusta National business.
The NAGS are missing the boat here, the NAGS- the NAGS are the ones all talking about women in combat, she oughta be a hero to them. They don't even give a rat's rear-end- she's from West Virginia, she's no different from Paula Jones. She's a hick, she's a hayseed.
Paula Jones, all those things that happened to her, you would have thought- the NAGS are against discrimination, would have rushed to her defense. But no, she lived in a trailer park. So here you have Jessica Lynch and now people are saying she didn't really do all that, she wasn't even rescued, the Iraqi's released her.
You're falling prey to these people who are trying to encourage the silliness of women in combat. The NAGS haven't even picked up on that one yet- the NAGS are too busy being distracted with all this stuff that REALLY matters. This business of membership at Augusta National. Unbelieveable, my friends.
No, actually it's not unbelieveable. You know what this war is doing- I'm gonna tell you what's hap- this whole war, the war on terrorism, the war in Iraq- is unmasking so many people, so many myths, so many kook beliefs. So many conspiracy theories, so much of the left's agenda is being exposed, uh- as the morally bankrupt agenda it is.
Imagine this- the peace movement- we would accurately describe as the anti-war protesters and people in the U.S. congress are opposing the war- the peace movement consists of alot of people. The day's going to come, and it's probably pretty close to being upon us now- the day's gonna have to come where these members of the peace movement and the anti-war marchers and all this, are going to have to explain how they can build a so-called peace movement around one of the cruelest regimes on earth.
Here we have the peace movement, which obstensibly is against the oppression of people- that's why the peace movement exists. There are no greater oppressed people on this planet probably than the Iraqi's, and guess who doesn't care about it? In fact, the whole peace movement today- the whole anti-war movement is based around protecting one of the cruelest regimes on earth. They're gonna be made to have to explain this real soon.
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Thursday, April 3, 2003 part two
[07: Kim] [edit]
Thank you- thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome back to Rush Limbaugh and the EIB network. Uh, the Martin Savage story- predictably, I'm being inundated with details, or requests for details.
Yes, they were Marines- Marine's are not soldiers, Marines are Marines or maybe troops, but they are not soldiers. But this happened on Sunday, my friends- it was live on CNN. Uh, Martin Savage is embedded with the 1st Marine battalion, 1st Marine division- talking with four young Marines near a foxhole in the morning, live on CNN.
And he'd been telling the story of how well the Marines have been looking out for and taking care of him since the war started. He went on to tell about the many hardships the Marine's had endured since the war began, and how they all look after one another. Now, to people who understand the Marine Corp, or the Armed Services- this is common, that's- to look after your buddy, in the foxhole, that's SOP.
But here's a guy seeing it firsthand who was amazed by it. Had to be a little bit- I don't wanna use the term ignorant- he just didn't know, he didn't know that that was a characteristic of behavior in the Armed Forces and it made a big impression on him. Which is a good thing, it's another one of the positives associated with the embeds, and there's some negatives too, but on balance this has turned out to probably be a good thing.
So Martin Savage turned to the four Marines, said that he had cleared it with their commanders, and they could use his videophone to call home- none of those Marine's have been able to talk with their families for alot of weeks. The 19 year-old Marine next to him asked Martin if he would allow his platoon sergeant to use his call to call his pregnant wife back home, who he had not been able to talk to in over a month.
A stunned Savage, who was visibly moved by the request, nodded his head yes. So the young Marine ran off to get the sergeant. Savage recovered after a few seconds, turned back to the three young Marine's still sitting with him, and he asked which one of them would like to call home first. The Marine closest to him responded without a moment's hesitation, said:
"Sir, if it's all the same to you, we'd like to call the parents of a buddy of ours (Lance Corporal Brian Buesing, of Cedar Key, Florida), who was killed on the 23rd of March near Naseria. We would like to see how his folks are doing and let them know that their son died bravely."
At that, Martin Savage totally broke down, was unable to speak. All he could get out before signing off was "Where do they get young men like this?"
Get 'em in America- it's a great story. More e-mail pouring in on the Jessica Savage- or Jessica Lynch comment's that I made:
(reading an e-mail)
Dear Rush, before the media- and I've been getting alot of mail from you people in the two-inch crowd out there, and don't think I don't know who you are. And don't think I don't know what's motivating you people out there. She's done some things that you only dream of doing in your minds.
(reading from the e-mail again)
Before the media confers a Congressional Medal of Honor on the female supply clerk, who was recently rescued from the Iraqi's, I think we need to get some facts straight. I understand the Washington Post is running a story that when her maintenance unit was ambushed, she picked up her weapon or whatever, and kept firing and wounding Iraqi's until she ran out of ammo.
Now how likely does that sound and where did the Post get the facts that no one else seems to have? Sounds suspiciously like a tv movie on the women's channel. There's been no mention of our other soldiers who were with her at the time being rescued. They're probably all dead. Did the same Post reporter who miracalously interviewed a comatose William Casey years ago, somehow interview the wounded female soldier, I wonder?
He's talking about Bob Woodward here.
(goes back to reading the e-mail)
Arab's fight with increased fanaticism when they believe that women are going against them in combat. The Israeli's found that out and pulled all women out of combat positions. The chances of that clerk being alive if she'd actually been shooting at them are slim and none. My opinion is, the only reason she was the one left alive is because the Arab's looked forward to raping her.
Further, I don't think it's fair to the dozen, maybe hundreds, of the men soldier heroes that have died, or been wounded or captured, to elevate this lone female supply clerk to heroine- excuse me, hero status. A very undesirable fact of all this hullabaloo is that feminists will now cite this story as evidence that women should be in every combat group. "Disgusted in Charlottesville."
And then there's this:
Hey Rush, why don't you thank Clinton for promoting women in the military? This example of a women's bravery directly contradicts your hand-wringing about what a burden women in combat would cause. Now that Jessica has shown us her bravery, why don't you show us yours by apologizing? I doubt you well, for you, sir, are a coward. Dennis- Lake Forest, California.
Yeah, I know you guys in the two-inch crowd- I spot you guys without even seeing ya. About this women in combat business- I'm telling you right now. The NAGS haven't caught on to this yet, the Nags are so- they're so preoccupied with Marth Burke and Augusta National, they might not have even heard about this.
Secondly, you wait- Jessica Lynch doesn't fit their profile of a woman they want to associate with. Jessica Lynch is not who they have in mind when they're thinking of women's rights. She comes from West Virginia, she's- she just doesn't. Cause she's- blonde, you know that just....
Thursday, April 3, 2003. 00:35:00. [08: Galen] [edit]
She doesn't, she doesn't fit any of their criteria. As to my previous statements on women in combat, I think this episode should cause a bunch of us to start thinking about things. I never opposed women in combat because of their incompetence, or because of their inability to do the job in the foxhole or whatever. My previously expressed objection to women in combat has to do with, is this what we want? For American women? Do we want to knowingly place American women in these positions? Is that how we view them?
There seems to me to be a case that can be made that this is not what we want American women to be doing. Not that they're incapable of it, although the strength arguments, we have shown video on the TV show, of women trying to be firemen who are unable to lift the hose, climb a wall, or whatever, and so the requirements to become a fireman were lowered so that women could qualify, during the era, here, of non-discrimination and equal rights, and this sort of thing.
But I think this does raise a question that a lot of people might want to weigh in on, and that is, is this, now that we've seen it, is this what we want. And we have another female prisoner of war that occurred early on, and there were horrible stories of what happened to her, and there was another one in the Gulf War, who was sexually abused. Is this something that we, as a society, wish to sanction? Officially? That's been my primary point of question about this ever since the debate raged, and again.
And it predates the Clinton administration, this concept, anyway, the Clinton administration. My memory's a little weak on this, they may have codified it, and gotten the ball rolling on it actually happening. I'm not sure -- maybe they did. But it's an idea that has been around long before that. And I'm sure, now, that when I go back to the e-mail file in the next break, I'm gonna find a whole bunch more from the two-inch crowd, and others who are very upset out there that a woman is being credited, and they don't believe it actually happened. A woman is just not capable, it is. There is a conspiracy out there in the Bush military to further the notion of women in combat.
Now, my um, and if you want to weigh in on this, feel free. We, also, Jim McDermott was on C-Span today. He was challenged by a caller. The caller who challenged Jim McDermott is on hold on this program to tell us what happened. So we'll get to that in due course. That is Keith. And he's in Palm Bay, Florida. Keith, now, you just hang on, there Keith, and we'll get to you as quickly as is possible. It'll be pretty soon.
The question, though, that I raised a moment ago, and it sort of dove-tails with John Kerry, here, suggesting we need regime change, 'cuz the world hates us. And the world hates us because of Bush, and the UN hates us, and we need a President who can make the world love us, again, and the UN like us. You know, thoughtful, quote-unquote, thoughtful, people across the country ponder this question; Why does the Arab street hate us? Why do they dislike us? Why do they hate us? Why do they burn the American flag? Why do they curse our President?
The Arab street? How do we reach them? How do we reach the Arab street? How do we tell the people in the Arab street our side of the story? How do we show the people of the Arab street what we have done for them, are doing, and will do to help better their lives? How do we get this message out? It's a PR thing! We're losing it, supposedly, in the battle for the minds of the people of the Arab street.
And many of our most thoughtful ponder these questions. You've probably heard it happen, seen it happen, on TV. The hand-wringing, and the furrowed eyebrows and the wrinkled foreheads, liberals speaking, "Are we reaching Arab street? Are you sure they [?3:48] intend them no harm?" From the left side of the tracks to the right side of the tracks, the question is asked, and answers, unsatisfactory answers, are offered up, from the "We're too strong BS" of the Clintons - that's why the Arab street hates us - we're too strong, to the "we're not showing enough strength" , there's a smorgasbord of thought out there to explain our inability to connect with the people on the Arab street.
But to me, my friends, as is the case most of the time, there is a larger question. And it is this: How can we get the Arab streets to understand our intentions are honorable when we can't get our own left wing to understand it? How do we get our own Columbia University professors to understand that our intentions are honorable? And if we can't get these wackos at Columbia University, and Berkeley, and anywhere else to understand our intentions, how in the hell are we gonna convince the Arab street? We're still out there hearing, "No blood for oil". We're still getting assistant professors, teachers wishing for a million Mogadishus. We're getting university presidents, first defending, and then speaking out with words like "shocking" and "horrific"
Thursday, April 3, 2003. 00:40:00. [09: Kim] [edit]
...Mogadishu professor, but defending the haters right to free speech. We can illustrate the hypocrisy of defending his right to free speech- imagine if DeGenova, the professor who wished for a million Mogadishus had wished for a million Rwandas.
Imagine if, (laughing) don't even go there Rush, don't- don't go-you'd be fired that afternoon. If he had said- if he had wished for a million gay lynchings, who would have been gone in five minutes. This professor- so there's alot of hypocrisy out there, folks. I mean, he can say- he can wish for a million Mogadishus, meaning 18 million American soldiers killed, and they defend his right to say it. While saying they're appalled, but still, they defend his right to say it.
Meanwhile, we wonder why we can't connect with the Arab street. How can we persuade the Arab nations when we can't persuade the left in this country, we can't even persuade half of the media in this country. I mean, but- do you really think Peter Jennings has a hint that we're the good guys in this? He may have a hint that we're the good guys, but it's a question- you know, it's a legitimate question after watching ABC.
Um, not to lose cheer, my friends. The media refers to our side as they- we can say we're winning, the media must say they are winning. Or better yet, they say the administration is winning. But how do we reach the Middle East? Well, how about this- and I know this is not PC, this is as un-pc as you can get. Hey Middle East we can flatten- this is the thing, this is what I- if we really want to reach the Arab street.
I don't know who it is that would say this, that they would listen to- but here's some things that I might try anyway. Hey Arab street, we can flatten Iraq without losing a single soldier, but we didn't. Hey Arab street, we could flatten Baghdad without losing a single American soldier, but we didn't. Hey Baghdad, hey Middle East, hey Arab street- we are losing the lives of our own people in an attempt to save the lives of yours.
If you don't believe we wanna help you, then hopefully your children or maybe your grandchildren will. The truth will spread, later if not sooner, my friends. But it's not going to happen with a focus group line, it's not going to happen with some witticism from a President who's more concerned with symbolism over substance.
But this notion that we somehow are failing to convince the Arab street, that we've got to get the word- well hell folks, we've got to convince half the people- well, not that many anymore, but we can't convince the left in this country that this is a decent place. So, put in that context, I think it's a formidable challenge we face.
A quick break, back with more in just a moment.
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Rush: I got a bunch of women emailing me, asking what the two inch crowd is. Ladies, be glad you don't know. Here's Terry in San Francisco. Welcome to the EIB Network. Nice to have you with us.
Terry: Hello, Rush. Mega [edited] dittos from the left coast.
Rush: Thank you so much.
Terry: I'm calling on the women in the military issue.
Rush: Yes.
Terry: I'm a veteran myself, and -- the vast majority of women, I feel, don't have the intestinal fortitude to do what it takes in times of crisis. I can give you hundreds of examples. In the Fire department, when we've gone to many different calls, they just don't have what it takes. There are exceptions to the rule. But in general, the most -- most of them do not what it takes in times of crisis. To handle the stress of an emergency such as that.
Rush: Okay. So, but -- how do you deal with -- the -- if you acknowledge that there are those who can, do you think those that can should be permitted to do it?
Terry: Well -- but you're going to have to be very, very strict on the training, and you're gonna have to weed out the bad eggs to find out which ones can, and which ones can't.
Rush: (talks over caller) And that's not being -- that -- that's not being done?
Terry: I don't really feel it is. Whether it's in public safety, in the police departments or fire departments, or in the military -- I don't think that they're weeding out the bad ones. I think that they're gonna let one in , they're gonna let 'em all in, and that's where you find the problems.
Rush: Now, one of the things that's amazing, and -- we've -- had this discussion. About -- particularly about fire departments for years on this program. About how the requirements were lessened. Um -- so -- as to allow women, who were not physically able to pass certain tests, were able to qualify nevertheless. But -- you look at Jessica Lynch. You know, she was, she was part of the 507th Maintenance Unit. That took the wrong turn, if you remember that.
She's not even in a combat division. Now, I know they all get combat training, and so forth. She's -- in -- a -- maintenance division. And still had the presence of mind to do -- all that she did. Now -- this -- that's a good point, sir. This intestinal fortitude -- um -- thing -- that's -- hardly -- you can't measure intestinal fortitude on a physical examination. Intestinal fortitude and -- physical strength are -- two different things.
And you're not gonna find somebody's intestinal fortitude when you put 'em through -- um -- you know, obstacle course, or -- such things as that. But -- I know, this - whole incident is -- it has revived this argument. And it's -- it -- it's gonna elevate it now back to -- you know, top of the page, front page status.
Maria, on I-95 in South Carolina, Hi, welcome to the program.
Maria: Hi, Rush. I can't believe I'm on.
Rush: Well, here you are.
Maria: This is great. I -- I'm so glad I'm able to follow your last caller. Um -- I -- think women do have both the intestinal fortitude, the smarts and strength to get to -- to perform those tasks necessary. Um, I think that if you look at the -- what am I trying to say, I'm kind of nervous here -- um - our pursuit of happiness, liberty and -- our pursuit of happiness. And women should be allowed to pursue a military career, if that's --
Rush: Well, wait -- see. This -- is -- where the argument gets tough. Because the -- military is not -- the military's got its own codes. The military has its own restrictions. It has its own rules. It's got its own code of justice It's got its own justice system, court system, and all that. Um -- it's not a social experimentation laboratory. And when you talk about the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, that does not exist in the military.
It's not about life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Not -- after you -- are a member, and you're assigned rank and taking orders and all that. It's -- the purpose here is far different. Ah -- your desire to go in -
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...is a different matter. but then there are practical realities, like being able to carry your buddy away who's injured. Can you do that, can you physically extricate somebody from the battlefield if you have to. If you can't, maybe you shouldn't be there. We'll be back in a moment.
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Just remember, ladies and gentlemen, I want to remind you of this. I could conveniently forget this, and hedge my bets, but I'm not - I'm gonna stick with it. I made a prediction recently that the battle of Baghdad will not last very long, and it's going to go pretty quickly. I think Baghdad will fall almost as quickly as we thought the whole war would go quickly. That's my prediction to you.
CENTCOM is saying they have not turned out the lights in Baghdad. They didn't do it. So, either Baghdad turned out the lights, the regime did, or there's just a general power failure, or we did and are not saying it. It's one of those three.
Welcome back, great to have you. Rush Limbaugh here from the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies. The excellence in broadcasting network rolls on, our telephone number is 800/282-2882.
Good news - that AWOL dolphin came back. You know, those dolphins, somebody called here one day, we did a story on the dolphins targeting mines and so forth. And they said, "you know, those things don't leave. They can leave anytime they want to but they don't. They don't want to; they come back." And you know PETA was upset because these dolphins are drafted, and don't volunteer, and that's the main point. No, they volunteer, because they can leave. Well, shortly after pointing out that they never leave, the lead dolphin, the best dolphin, went AWOL. Just vanished. But it came back.
Tacoma. The bomb-sniffing bottlenosed dolphin, go AWOL. Now they're asking did it go AWOL, or did it just take a little vacation? US Navy uses trained dolphins to detect potential mines with their SONAR and then place markers on them to guide human divers to the targets. Last week, the Navy showed off Tacoma's skills as the dolphin helped clear the way for the arrival of a Royal Fleet supply ship in the Iraqi port of Um Qasr.
Within hours on the job, though, Tacoma was missing. Naturally, some sailors assumed the worst.
"Dolphins have had all this amazing publicity, but as soon as they put one in the water, it shot through," one Australian diver told the Melbourne Sun. "There's a war going on, and Flipper goes AWOL," he said. His handler said it's not unusual for a dolphin to go missing; after all, he may meet some local company out there, you never know, and, so the military is speculating that Tacoma found a Tacoma-ette, and had a little dolphin rendezvous out there - a little R&R, so to speak, in military terms, and then came back...
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Thursday, April 3, 2003. 01:10:00. [15: Carl] [edit]
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[Caller] ...the President's told us the truth or not. I could give you ten articles from the New York Times in which people have used the word "lie", in a more recent time. The question about whether the President has been honest with the people about what this war is about, or what it's going to cost, or what - is pretty much settled; he has not been honest with us. And I think that some of his advisers have also misled him.
[Caller] I think that there is a real situation here - that in a democracy, the people have to know what the truth is. Now, they say they're not bombing human beings. But there are certainly a lot of people dying in houses and other things in Baghdad.
[Caller] You - the so-called "smart" bombs are not that smart. They still hit places like that; they bombed a market, and a whole bunch of people were killed, going out to buy their vegetables.
[RL] Now, hasn't it been established that that was an Iraqi-caused explosion? Or was - there was no US targeting of that market. There was no US targeting of that consumer market. Yeah, flak, that's right - that's what it was, they think, you know the Iraqis are firing, you know, anti-aircraft fire, and surface-to-air missiles and surface-to-surface missiles, and I think one of - it's Iraqi flak, you know, that stuff goes up, has to come down.
And it was probably Iraqi fire that hit it. We'll get to the caller in a second. You talk about lies. I mean, this is - the President hasn't told us the truth about why we're doing this? The President has been lied to by his own Administration? I mean, this is absolutely absurd! Everybody knows why we're doing it, we can see it point-blank on TV why we're doing it. The Iraqis know why we're doing it, and they're happy that we're doing it.
Last night on Hannity and Colmes, Lawrence Eagleburger was the guest, Hannity said to him, there was a story in USA Today that said well, the President's putting on a tough demeanor, for the public, but behind the scenes he's really, really rattled, and I'm thinking, this is baloney! Here is "Legalburger's" response:
[LE] If you'll give me thirty seconds I can give you a specific example. About ten days ago I was approached by the New York Times to write an op-ed piece. To make it very short, when I talked to them about it, I was told, "what we want is criticism of the Administration."
[Host] They told you that?
[LE] Yeah, right out, flat out. He told me he wanted criticism of the Administration. Needless to say, I did not write the op-ed piece.
[RL] So here they are on the op-ed page, this is not the editorial page, they put out a distress call for a piece hitting the Administration, they went to Eagleburger 'cause they thought he might bite, obviously, since he has written pieces negatively, long ago, about the war. Before this started, he was interested in putting together a big coalition vis-a-vis the United Nations.
So, who's lying? Who's trying to put out misinformation? Who's trying to coerce people into saying things about this that is not true? Eagleburger just sort of nails the New York Times today. Now, we'll get to the caller who just asked McDermott this question about what he did while on the ground in Baghdad, right after this. Don't go away, my friends.
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Rush: A little news here, the, um- the French news agency is reporting that the- the wives and children of two aides to Uday Hussein have been killed by virtue of U.S. bombing. The wives and children of two aides to Uday Hussein- Uday Hussein runs the Saddam Feyadeen, so they would be military targets, the locations of these attacks.
And he- he also runs the Olympic committee, (laughing)- the Iraqi Olympic committee, wouldn't you like to know what some of those sports are. But nevertheless that's the news there- we want to go back to the phones now to Palm Bay, Florida and Keith, who was the caller today on CNN who questioned why McDermmott would say what he did while in Baghdad and not wait to come back to the United States.
And you, uh- you said on C-Span that you were from Valdosta, Georgia- but you're from Palm Bay, Florida. Did you- why did you do that?
Keith: It's an honor speaking with you Rush, um- I did that because they have a thirty day policy on there, and against my morals, I just had to talk to this guy. And I'd just called the day before, so I set up....
Rush: Ah-hah...
Keith: ... and I'm not usually that way, but soemthing made me want to talk to this guy and ask him some questions...
Rush: Were you, uh- were you satisfied with the answer he gave to your question...
Keith: No, he gave me the run-around actually, but later on answered my question with Iraqi propaganda- you know, during the course of his little interview, he called- he said the President was dishonest and not forthcoming with the American people, uh- code names for lying. And then he turned around and spewed Iraqi propa- propagation again, saying that we were bombing all of Baghdad and I have responded to him saying you know, that's not true.
CentCom's telling us, we're only bombing military positions. And later on in his interview, he had said now we're bombing markets- you know, over there. And the only people advertising that is Al-Jazeera and Iraqi tv, so where's he getting his information? I think he owes the American people an apology- a great apology.
Rush: Well, if he did, it would be- didn't he apologize for his first foray into this, when he made his statement from Baghdad? Or did others apologize for him? What was it?
Keith: Both, he gave it the run-around- you know, the- well, the tv made me do it. You know, the politician, uh- George Stephanopolous made me do it. I was talking to American tv, not Iraqi tv, but my feet were still in Iraq. This- this guy, somebody needs to make him come to an account and I- and I also have some bad news.
The same day they reported the- the guy in California? They have one here local in Cocoa, Florida that- same thing, Marine Reserve. A young Afro-American gentleman- got scared and had a party and friends threw it and didn't show up, and finally turned himself in. Apparently he doesn't have a lawyer, because they're.....
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[Caller] ...for desertion.
[RL] Hm. You know, there have been remarkably few such incidents. I mean, OK, here are two that we know about. That's really, statistically, zero. And it's not even worth really getting upset about, because the number of these instances are so few. It's probably good, in essence, that these people, in this frame of mind are being weeded out, clearly they're not helpful, and would not be useful in this situation. Well, look, Keith, thanks for the phone call, I appreciate it.
This McDermott character is - I tell you, I can understand everybody getting all worked up about it, again I'm going to say - I feel like a broken record here, but I can understand getting worked up - and go ahead and do it, I'm not suggesting it's a waste of time, but don't be concerned about it. Don't think McDermott's persuading anybody. These people really have lost all moral ground, on which they were at one time standing. If they had any. But they don't any longer. The moral ground which they think they've occupied in the past has been rather flimsy, anyway. But they don't have any, now. This is just a desperate cry to be noticed and in the process these people are looking like utter fools. And they're not persuading anybody, you see the polls.
And - people see the President of the United States as he did today, make his speech at Camp Lejune, there is no way that a Baghdad Jim McDermott's going to hold up. In an A-B, or side-by-side analysis with George W. Bush. There's no way any of these people on the Left are. They're just, they can't hold a candle to him. When it comes to character, when it comes to decency and honor, when it comes to, oh, such things as charisma. Believability. They just can't hold a candle.
And the more they keep talking, the more they just keep stabbing themselves. That's why I urge them to keep doing it. Thanks again, Keith, for the phone call. We go to Enfield, CT. And say hello to Paul. Welcome, sir, to the program.
[Paul] Hi, Rush, first-time caller, long-time listener. Just an observation about the marketplace bombing? Generally when there's a bombing with civilian casualties, the Iraqis will parade around components of the missile, any markings of the United States, anything on it. This case, that didn't happen.
[RL] Even if it did - here's the thing, and I think you're right, this is probably an errant Iraqi weapon of some kind. Even if it was an American missile, it is so obvious we're going out of the way to not target these things, and for McDermott to harp on these things, and try to make it look like thousands of Iraqis are dying - they are, but it's the Iraqi government that's killing them, or forcing them into the line of fire. We are purposely going out of the way to avoid Iraqi civilians and civilian populations.
I'll tell you something else, and I made this point a moment ago, and this is, well it can affect you in a lot of ways, but the truth of the matter is: we are running the risk of losing more American lives precisely because we are avoiding civilian areas. We are putting an even greater burden on our armed forces by avoiding civilian areas. And if we weren't messing around with that, if we weren't going all out to protect these civilian targets, and not hit them, our troops would not be nearly as at risk as they are.
It could be said that we are losing more American lives, taking more American casualties, than we otherwise would be, precisely because we are not targeting Iraqi civilians and neighborhoods, and other places where they would gather. And there's no question about it, anybody watching this knows that, and if Jim McDermott doesn't want to admit it, then he's showing us his real colors.
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Thursday, April 3, 2003 part four
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Rush: ... yesterday and last night. Now within four miles of the city, the uhh, they claimed also the destruction of a pair of Republican Guard divisions, an army helicopter was shot down, killing seven of its eleven crew members. Bombs shook Baghdad as army and marine armored columns took separate converging paths, towards the city from the uhh, south"
The CENTCOM briefer, Brigadier General Vincent Brooks said, "The dagger is clearly pointed at the heart of Saddam's regime. Increasingly, there were signs that Iraqi civilians were eager for the arrival of invading forces. Some smiled and waved as marines rolled through the Nasiriya area in tanks, and other military victories, uhh, uhh uhh, vehicles." What did they say? They uhh, they want, democracy, whiskey and sexy. Yeah, that was an Iraqi citizen who was asked, "What does- what does the Americans coming mean to you?" "Democracy, whiskey and sexy!" is uhh, what he said.
Yeah, and what are these people saying they don't understand freedom. What better definition of freedom can you get than, democracy, whiskey and sexy. (Tapping sound)
And then there's this, another story on, "Jubilant crowds greeting the troops in Najaf" an enthusiastic welcome for US forces in Najaf turned uhh, jubilant today, as several thousand Iraqi's braved sporadic firefights or what one Special Forces officer described as " The Macy's Day Parade". Applauding a US patrol that pushed close to a religious shrine, at the center of the city."
Was it Najaf or Naahjuf? It was Najaf.
"Four days after encircling Najaf, the one hundred first airborne division tightened the occupation today. Three infantry battalions rolled though the streets, including neighborhoods around the venerated "Tomb of Ali", son in law of the prophet Mohammed. Company of fourteen M- 1 Abrams tanks clanked up and down the southern boulevard, and another brigade of several thousand troops, cinched the cordon on the north, seizing arms caches, and swapping fire, with illusive gunmen, now believed to number no more, than a few score."
Here's another interesting point. Made this point some time ago, gonna revisit this notion. Dah, if we're calling the Republican Guard, "The Elite Republican Ga...". These people aren't "Elite". There's nothing elite about the Republican Guard. These people are a bunch of cowards. These people - I don't care if they're regular army or the "Elite Republican Guard" they hide. They hide behind women. They dress as civilians.
There's nothing courageous about these people and it's the same thing about these terrorist. I gonna make a point. Let's say that, this defense minister's "all points bulletin" for all these terrorist worldwide to hop on terrorist airlines and to head on into Baghdad. These terrorists are very courageous, are they not? Oh yeah, they're really good at attacking innocent civilians, but let's see how they do against US military. Lets just see. I kind of have an idea how this is gonna go.
"Saddam Hussein had long pinned his hopes on the Republican Guard, the quote unquote " Elite" defenders of his regime, but, yesterday in the first major encounter with the firepower of US marines, the Republican Guard crumbled." according to the pentagon. Brigadier General Vincent Brooks, deputy director of operation for CENTCOM, said the Guards Baghdad Division, was destroyed, so was the Medina Division.
Here's another point. The Guards uhm, by standards of the Iraqi army is and "Elite" but that's not a very good standard. They have fifty or sixty thousand men in the Republican Guard. They are mainly minority Sunie Muslims. They are better trained. They are paid. They live in better quarters. They are better disciplined than the regular army. The most important, none of them is a conscripts. The Guard, which is overseen by Saddam's son Qusay, reports to the state security apparatus, not the defense ministry, reflecting it's principle role, hither to, is an instrument of internal repression.
And that's another important point about these people, The Republican Guard, and it -- it- this is applicable all these Arab dictatorships. Their military is actually nothing more than an "S.S.". Their military is -- is -- is used primarily to uphold, police states. They're used against defenseless citizens. They're used against pockets of resistance, but they are no match, for professional militaries like ours, or Britain's, or Israel's.
Now you still have to defeat them by killing them and by destroying their weapons, but these are largely internal security forces. They are not military fighting machines. They have one purpose, and that is to keep people from rioting. Keep people from uhh, engaging in revolution. They are quite simply there to put down any citizen who gets the idea that he wants a little taste of freedom. These people are there to uphold and protect a dictatorship, and their primary objective, is to conduct terror operations against harmless, and defenseless citizens. But you match the "Elite" yip yip yip yip yahoo, Republican Guard, up against the best trained, the best equipped fighting force the worlds ever se....
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Rush: (thumping sound) and there's nothing elite about them. The Baghdad division of the Republican Guard, the Medina Division of the Republican Guard crumbled in two days. And here's something else that's happened. The two remaining Republican Guard divisions have left Baghdad and they're heading south, to try and head us off. This is the biggest mistake they can make.
This is what we've been hoping they would do. We've been hoping they would come out and meet us on the us on the battlefield, but the though, naturally was, that they would stay hold up in their caves, in homes, disguised as average citizens and await for our arrival in Baghdad and then engage in the dreaded" urban warfare" and the uhh, conventional wisdom was (unintelligible) they're not going to come out and meet us, they're going to wait for us to get in there and start taking pot-shots at us (unintelligible).
Well it appears, that at least two more Republican Guard divisions are heading out to meet us. Ahh, (unintelligible), this is exactly what we want. Course you got to keep a sharp eye, you gotta be steadfastly uhh, on alert for any, chemical or biological tipped weapons that they might use, but there are or even theories about that now.
There are a couple of uhh, couple of these retired gen -- and I know, I'm putting these retired generals in quotes, but a couple of them are now saying, that they, and they've sourced this, they got people somewhere, they're not saying where, they got people that are tolling, or telling them that Saddam is on life support, uhh, somewhere in a bunker in Baghdad, incapacitated and not giving orders. And there -- it -- it does appears that there is very little uhh, organized military structure left uhh, it arguably there hasn't been any at all in th - in - in this whole battle, or this whole war.
And a lot of people are curios, as to why there haven't been yet any usage, hasn't any usage of the dreaded "chemical or biological weapons," and while nobody knows for sure, the theory is, command and control is simply not able to communicate and give the order. That they're totally disorganized and (tapping sound) uhm, they just don't have the, structure to be able to do it. That these things, a little more complicated, I mean you don't just take a chemical weapon or a bio weapon and launch it, cause you want to live after you do.
So you got to make sure your protected against what ever it is, and you got to make sure the weather is such, that it's not going to come blown back, right back at you and. So it requires a little bit more organization than -- than just, (in a characterized voice)"Okay, load chemical weapons and fire." There's a little bit more to it than that, and the fact that uhm, and that's just one example. There -- there have been many other examples of the total lack of any -- any type of a -- a - formal uhm, central military operation and this fact, this -- this notion that the Republican Guard is now breaking camp and heading out, to the battlefield south of Baghdad is another indication that, something strange is going on.
Now, thi -- premature to say this, we'll wait and see how it goes, but, I do - I do think, it appears to me, that this uhm, -- this battle for Baghdad is, (thumping sound) gonna be a lot quicker and a lot cleaner, than was originally though.
We got some more satellite photos from uhh, Global Imaging, who, use the (Econo?) satellite. These people, very graciously allowed us to uhm, display on our website, the pictures of Salman Pak, the terrorist training and play ground south of Baghdad. And they sent us six more jpegs today, satellite photos of Baghdad that shows the plums of smoke and the burning uhh, uhh, oil fires, some of the damage that we have inflicted on the city, and are huge. Some of them are as large as four megabytes, others down to one megabyte.
We're going to post these on the website, later this afternoon when we update the site to reflect the contents of today's show. I was looking at them this morning and it just it -- it -- it hit me again, this a huge city geographically. Uhh, these - these picture are taken, I think now, (two tapping sounds) not sure how up, I wanna say 12,000 miles, but I may be confusing this satellite with uhm, GPS satellite (unintelligible) are orbiting at about 12,300 miles, but never the less, I don't know what the altitude is -- it's high enough, that, it is obvious how huge the city this is.
And the idea, we're gonna take this city by just marching in street by street, uhh, this is a city with 5 million people. City large enough to handle 5 million people without a whole lot of crowd. To think we're going to occupy this city with a hundred or two hundred thousand troops walking in, marching in, on tanks, it's gonna take a lot more than that.
And as you're watch what 's unfolding today, I mean we are literally on the outskirts. The lights in Baghdad are uhh, out the power is off. The Allies are now attacking Saddam International Airport. Tha -- that's one of the shots we've got. And I kid you -- and the shots are from April 1st, just uhh, two days ago. There's one airplane, on the tarmac at Saddam International Airport.
One airplane, and I don't know if there -- there was one country that had direct flights still going in and out of Baghdad up till two weeks ago. I don't even know which country it was uhh, not Syria, because, you know you take the donkey or the mule to get to Iraq to get to Syria. So I don't - I don't know which country it was, I saw one airplane on the uhh, the tarmac, but never the less we're attacking Saddam International Airport...
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Rush: and we had an idea the - the city's large, and -- and you wonder, here we are on the outskirts and you've got these, this defense minister and whover - who ever else survives from the, uhh, Iraqi leadership, What are these people doing? I mean they know, it's over. They have to know it's over. Yet they're going on TV denying, that anything of the sort has happened. They're denying the Republican Guard's been obliterated. They're denying that we're six miles outside Baghdad. They're denying it all, even though we got pictures to prove it all. It's like communist China denying Tianamen Square, when everybody saw it. They -- but -- they just deny - to this day they deny it.
Well, I was sitting here wondering. What are these guys doing? Where are they? If they're in Baghdad in some cave, or bunker, that's - that's one thing, but, at - at some point these guys have to do one of two things, they have to think about surrendering or getting the hell out of there or trying to.
Now one of the websites, that uhh, way back when, before the war started, the day before the war started, maybe the day of, that launch, that attack we launched on the uhh, "the secret bunker," where we knew where Saddam was. There were a number of websites, as you know, putting the word out that Tariq Aziz had fled or either had been shot or had been captured, and this forced Tariq Aziz on TV to deny it, and the story goes that we then followed Tariq Aziz when he left that TV studio and got a general idea where Saddam might be, and that helped in targeting.
But one of the websites, was uhm, uhh, sort of a wacko Israeli website. What -- what's the name of it Fred? I don't have it right in front of me. Yeah Debca. The Debika website. Is it D --e -- b -- I -- k -- a or D -- e -- b - k -- a. which is it? Deb...D -- e -- b the Debka, the Debka.com and they're running uhh, uhh little item just like the Tariq Aziz item. So I'm wondering if these people are being used? My point, not that they're a bunch of kooks, but if they're being used, because the latest rumor here running is that, the Baghdad Government chartered and leased an entire luxury hotel, if there is such a thing in Syria, near the Assad Family cam - compound near the Mediterranean and that the Iraqi leadership is all there.
Is not known if Saddam is there, but the Iraqi leadership, enough of it, with their families and wives are all hold up in his hotel. Being guarded constantly by uhh, armed guards, military units posted outside all the rooms of the hotel. Just a two or three line little blurb, uhh, that's another one of these rumors. So who knows what we're trying to uhh, flush out now, by starting a rumor that the, Iraqi leadership, those that count, aren't even there.
They're holed up in Syria at a hotel, and maybe, Saddam. Then they're other people, as I say, who are saying they've got "sourced data" that Saddam is on life support, incapacitated, some where underneath, one of these bunkers in Baghdad and we also, uhh, what was it, we blew up a uhh, a Saddam Palace. We hit a Saddam Palace and we went in there, and we didn't find Saddam or - or anybody else, but we have found interesting documents that are being examined. So (thump sound) major, major stuff happening before our eyes. We'll keep you posted, get back to your phone calls, and resume with the stack of stuff. All that coming up right after this time out.
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Rush: The point was just made to me, ladies and gentlemen, in response to the uhh, idiocy of Jim McDermott, that if we were indeed targeting Iraqi citizens, there wouldn't be any left. If that was our point in targeting Iraqi women and civilians, there wouldn't be any left standing. We could have wiped them out from -- from the get go, and that would be the end of it. The point is this though, and this is -- this is for all the McDermott's, and all the people on the left, who think that we're doing this, or even happening accidentally, you have to understand one thing.
It wouldn't matter to this regime at all if we took out all the women and civilians in this population. The women and children, it wouldn't matter, they'd kill them anyway. They're killing them themselves now. They kill them routinely, as a matter of course, day to day to day, in normal circumstances in Iraq, That's one of the reasons we're moving in there, is to stop this. It's one of the things the left in this country, used to care about.
Human rights violation, hello Jimmy Carter, but when it comes to human rights violations in Iraq, some how the left doesn't seem to care. In fact, they're basing the whole peace movement, this time around, on acknowledging it and protecting the human rights violations that are going on in Iraq.
Now, in Japan, when we dropped those two nuclear weapons, we -- they - they were military targets, but they were also civilian neighborhoods. We obliterated, thousands of Japanese civilians in World War II, and that led the Japanese Government to call it all off. Once we demonstrated we'd be willing to do that. The reason it worked in that circumstance was the Japanese Government was not into killing it's own people. The Japanese Government was not into seeing it's civilian population wiped out. In Iraq, the government wipes out it's own civilian population every day.
So our targeting the, innocent in Iraq, wouldn't matter a hill of beans, in terms of creating or obtaining a surrender, or any other kind of cease fire, on the part of the Iraqi government. They just sit back and say, "Hey, I mean the US is doing our job for us. We'll sit back and let them" So this is silly, this - this whole notion that we are, targeting Iraqi civilians is, (thump sound) I tell you what, this is utter paranoia, the -- the - these people have become so irrelevant, and they know it, all they're doing is, they're just, they're grasping at straws, they're - they're just literally flailing around doing anything they can to try and bring Bush's poll numbers down, folks. Now, that's all this is to them.
They're making total political calculations. It really is obscene to watch these people, and the fact now, that the peace movement in this country is gonna have to explain, How it is that it has oriented itself around, "protecting" this barbaric regime. Again, human rights violations anyone? The left in this country and the peace movement in this country seems to, actively support the Iraqi regime engaging in the epitome of human rights violations although the left claims to have always cared about.
Be right back. Stay with us.
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Rush: And we are back, Rush Limbaugh. Ya know, we're going to take the whole country of Iraq alot sooner than it took Janet Reno to conquer the Branch Davidians in Waco. It was a 51 day invasion of the, uh- invasion in Waco, the Branch Davidians.
And you know what? We're going to find evidence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq much sooner than it took Hilary to produce the Rose law firm billing records. You just wait, my see- uh, my friends, and see. And I've got a couple of other analogies I'll share with you when we commence the next hour- one of them involving Ted Kennedy. Don't go away.
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Rush: Hi we are back, ladies and gentlemen, we're going to cram as much as we can into our final hour here to Rush Limbaugh program the EIB Network, great to have you along for the ride (intro music) as the Limbaugh eco syndrome (intro music) continues (unintelligible) for the balance of the media, which will (intro music) do it's thing this afternoon and this evening. Here's the phone number if you want to be on the program, it's 800-282-2882. (Into music playing in the background) So we uhm, we're gonna take, Iraq in less time that it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian Compound. That was a fifty-one day operation.
It took less time to find evidence of chemical weapons in Iraq than it took Hillary Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records. We found the evidence up their at the Al uhh, the I'm sorry, Islam uhh, uhh camp, up in -- in northern Iraq. The Al Qaeda camp up there as well. And... you know in one sense, you could even say this. It took Teddy Kennedy longer to call the police after his Oldsmobile sunk at Chappaquiddick, than it took the third infantry division in the marines, to destroy the Medina Republican Guard. It took ten hours for Ted Kennedy to tell the cops his car sank at Chappaquiddick, and we took only a few hours to destroy the Medina Republican Guard. We're gonna take Iraq in less time then it took to count the votes in Florida... in the year 2000. And I'm sure my friends; you can come up with some of your own.
Now the uhh, the news out of Baghdad, the news out of Iraq is uhh, is interesting, and it's not reflected in this report.
" Iraqi deserters and civilians are flooding out of Baghdad by the busloads today. They are surrendering to US forces advancing on the Iraqi capital." Of the US TV reporter traveling with the marines said "There are so many people on the road now, that it's impossible to further conduct military operations. So our unit has stopped now and set up a hasty prisoner of war compound." This from ABC correspondent, Mike Sayer. uhh. This is, on the surface, this sounds, like good news, but, this is one of the things we were originally concerned about. When we were, not - not on Baghdad, but when we were...
Thursday, April 3, 2003. 02:05:00. [26: Carl] [edit]
[Note to editor: Checked: Tharthar Vincent Brooks Mark Kitchens Milken Byron York ]
...from Kuwait, one of the US military's theories was that the Iraqis would flood the southern route with refugees. So many that we, out of humanitarian concern, would stop our movement to set up POW camps and other things. Looks like this is happening now, outside of Baghdad.
It's too soon to know whether this is an Iraqi strategic move, or whether this is genuinely Iraqi citizens fleeing for their lives. But regardless, the - a section - not the whole US advance, but a portion of the US military advance has ceased military operations for a time, just to set up a prisoner of war compound to handle all these people that are fleeing.
What's stopping us now, said the ABC correspondent, what's stopping us now is the flood of deserters and civilians on buses, trucks, taxi cabs and whatever they can catch a ride on, trying to make their way south to their families, or American forces to surrender.
The - US special forces raided a presidential palace Thursday north of Baghdad, finding no trace of Saddam but seizing important documents. The spokesman at CENTCOM had said the palace was near Baghdad's airport, south of the capital. This is the Tharthar presidential palace, 56 miles north of Baghdad. The palace had been used as a vacation retreat for Saddam and his sons, but Brooks - Vincent Brooks, the briefer - said that no regime leader was present when US forces raided the building. And another spokesmen, Mark Kitchens, said there was no indication Saddam had been there recently.
But important documents were seized. Reuters is reporting that dozens of Iraqi citizens - well, Iraqis, not citizens per se, but dozens of Iraqis - had been killed in our attack on Saddam International Airport. Rupert Murdoch said yesterday afternoon that Americans have an inferiority complex about the world's opinion, and that Iraqis eventually will welcome US troops as liberators.
He was speaking at the Milken Institute Global Conference in Santa Monica. He said we worry about what people think about us too much. In this country. We have an inferiority complex it seems. I think what's important is that the world respects us. Much more important than they love us. Murdoch said that a long war could heavily influence US and global economies, while creating political instability in the Middle East and elsewhere. He suggested a decisive US effort for a quick end to the war would be better than a protracted battle. Which everybody knows, and which - I think everybody would have to agree this is. This is a quick action and it will get wrapped up. I think - the Dow Jones Industrial Average is up a little today, about forty points, NASDAQ is up as well, thirteen and a half. Oil prices continue to plummet.
The signs are all there. This is an economy waiting to be unleashed. People are just pent up here. And they're waiting for reasons to be confident about investment. And that's not far off. And victory will be that which unleashes all this pent-up frustration. You wait and see.
Now, while the President is fighting the war against terrorism, here's what the Democrats are doing. This is from Byron York, on National Review online today. "Although much attention has been paid to the filibuster of Appeals Court nominee Miguel Estrada, just yesterday Republicans made yet another unsuccessful attempt to break the Democrat blockade on his nomination, there is in fact a far larger story taking place. One that has gone mostly unreported in the Press. Using a variety of complicated parliamentary techniques that attract little public notice, Democrats are now blocking nearly every Bush nominee to the Federal Circuit Court of Appeals. The Democrats' actions suggest that party strategists have abandoned an earlier plan to stop a few, carefully selected Bush nominees. Now, they want to stop them all. Since the new Senate convened in January, the President has nominated nineteen candidates, for the Courts of Appeal. At this moment, twelve of those nominees are being held up by the Democrats. Most of the rest are new nominations that haven't yet had time to be blocked; only two have been confirmed."
So, the Democrats, their intention is to block everybody. They're not going to allow - with parliamentary maneuvers - any Bush nominee to be confirmed. That's what they're doing while the President is waging war against terrorism.
And believe me, you know, yesterday Nancy Pelosi went to the floor of the Senate to read a list of the dead. The vast majority of the names she read were Hispanic. Many from her own state. And here she is, participating in this filibuster of Miguel Estrada. This will not go unnoticed. There's going to be plenty of time when this war is over for what the Democrats are doing here on the domestic side to blockade everything, to be told...
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...and once they have been humiliated and embarrassed when the outcome of the war is obvious, you just wait and see. When you've got John Kerry out there now saying we need regime change in America, it is unbelievable. In all of my life, I hoped to see a Democrat, liberal crackup. I have hoped to see these people make repeated political mistakes. I never thought they would; I thought they were better than that in their strategy.
I thought that, like many of you, at one time I thought they were invincible. I thought they just could not make a mistake politically; that whatever they did, was always a step or two ahead of us. That they were always able to anticipate and surprise us with things that we had not been able to anticipate ourselves and therefore had no response or strategy.
But I think those days are long gone. The strategy they're engaged in now is transparent. It is almost suicidal - what these people are doing - because it's rooted in hatred. It's rooted in seething rage. There is a visceral, personal hatred for George W. Bush. There's always been a hatred, and a dislike, for conservatives in general, by liberals and Democrats. These are the people that claim to have all this compassion, and tolerance.
These are the people that claim to have more insight in understanding the vagaries of the human condition. These people are finally letting it be known just what hypocrites they are, they're letting it be known that they're the extremists, that these are the people truly mean-spirited and intolerant, they are so obsessed that they have lost their rationality.
When you've got John Kerry trying to capitalize his campaign against Bush for the Presidency, by equating the Bush administration with the Iraqi leadership by using the word "regime change" in talking about unseating Bush, in the midst of overwhelming Bush popularity, you just have to be confident, folks.
I'm going to tell you a little story. I told half of this story yesterday. I was at the annual Cigar Dinner. On Tuesday night in New York. I've been to all eleven of them. I'm not letting a cat out of the bag when I tell you that the majority of attendees are well-heeled, extremely successful, liberal males. Very successful liberal men. New Yorkers. And they routinely vote Democrat.
I can't tell you the number of them - when I walked into the room, and there's always at these things a period of time when you table-hop, [unintelligible] talk to everybody before the festivities begin - I can't tell you the number of these guys that came up to me and said, "I never thought I'd see the day where I'd tell you this, but I'm a Bush man. I love what this guy's doing. And the thing that sent me over the edge was Tom Daschle. When Tom Daschle said that he was saddened and talked about how Bush had failed diplomatically, when we all know the United Nations is a joke." He said, "That sent me over the edge because I know what this president's all about. I didn't vote for Bush but I will next time."
I can't tell you how many of these guys said this to me. It was not an insignificant number. And they said it with passion. And they said it to me, they wanted me to believe it and know it. Some of them sought me out to tell me this.
When Bush's name was mentioned at this thing, there were repeated occasions of applause. When the war was talked about, repeated occasions of applause. There wasn't one Democrat's name cited, all night. The Democratic party may as well not have even existed. In that room.
By virtue of what was said. I'm sure there were Democrats in there who haven't changed their minds, don't get me wrong here. But given the political makeup of the attendees of this thing, there were a significant number of people who went out of their way to let me know that they all of a sudden were Bush supporters. And it was three of them that cited Daschle as the thing that sent them over the edge.
Quick break. And I'm telling you, John Kerry is going to be Daschle II. You let this get out, you let - these people now support Bush. They may not support him domestically, they may not support him on the basis of ideology, but they support him as Commander in Chief of the US armed forces. And when they hear Democrats like Howard Dean or John Kerry try to compare Bush to a despot, by seeking regime change, I mean by saying, "even if we succeed in the war" - John Kerry, "even if we are victorious in the war, we need regime change in America to change our relationship with the world." Our relationship with the world will never be better than it's going to be at the conclusion of this. And it's going to be on the basis of what Rupert Murdoch said. It's not going to be that a whole lot more nations of the world love us, and he's right - that ought not be the objective, you ought to learn that first...
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Rush: you can't make everyone like you and trying to is a lost cause, but, you want everybody to respect you, and Bush is achieving that. Take my word for it. We'll be right back. Stay with us.
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Rush: I have a uhh, little - little tid bit of news here, and I know that (unintelligible) there are those of you out there that think that I'm, perhaps exaggerating, or just plain wrong when I say that, a large part of what uhm, animates the left today is their pure seething, hatred for George W. Bush. I know you people, some of you leftist are listening, and I know a lot of leftist in this audience, and I know you hear me say that. You think I'm over the top, you, come on Rush, ringing it in a little bit, just typical Limbaugh wackoism...
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Rush: ...in here you say, okay, (paper shuffling) try this, from the New York Post today. "If you though the rabid anti-Americanism displayed by such bottom sucking slugs as Michael Moore was as low as Hollywood can sink, " this is actually from NewsMax uhh today, which is - is rehashing the New York Post story, which uhm, I have here in the stack.
"The producer of the CBS mini-series "Hitler -- The Rise of Evil" says his movie, is a warning to the American people, if they don't watch out, the Bush Administration could morph into a copy of Hitler's National Socialist Dictatorship, according to the -- yes -- yes, according to the New York Post, something called the Ed Gernon, the CBS producer of the Hitler mini-series starting -- staring Robert Carlyle, Peter O'Toole and Julianne Margulies, says he sees the program as a warning for Americans about the Bush Administration. He says that he and Margulies, or Margulies and the director all think it's a good idea for Americans to keep Hitler's Nazi Regime in mind while looking at the Bush Whitehouse.
Gernon, the producer of the movie tells TV Guide that a fearful American publics co-operation with Bush policies is absolutely similar, to post world war one's Germany's acceptance of Hitler's extremism. He said, " I can't think of a better time to examine this history, of Hitler, than now." A president of CBS, Leslie Moonves, quickly separated himself from Gernon's disgusting tirade, telling TV Guide that he doesn't share, the filmmaker's highly paranoid views and doesn't subscribe to the Bush -- Hitler comparison. (Several tapping sounds) You think I'm making this up? You think I'm, over analyzing this? (Papers shuffling) How else would you describe it? What is it that would cause a producer of a movie on Hitler and the Third Reich, to tell the American People you better watch this and learn from it because this is exactly what the Bush Administration is gonna become if you let it. (Thumping sound)
You tell me where there is any, intellectual honesty in that? They're -- this -- there's nothing rational in this. This is rooted in pure seething, hatred and rage. Here we are, trying to, rescue people who are the genuine victims, of not only a victim of a Hitler like regime, but a Stalin like regime. In fact, Hussein has said Stalin's one of his heroes. Stalin's one of the people he idolizes. Stalin's policies, Hussein has openly said, "Are things that he wants and is doing in -- in -- in uhh, - in Iraq.
So here we are the liberators, and the president of this country has just been compared by a guy, who was given a budget to do a movie, air it on CBS about Hitler. Here's this guy, warning the American people, " Keep a sharp eye on the Bush Administration because if you don't watch it, the Bush Administration is going to become the next incarnation of Hitler." (Thumping sounds) So don't - don't tell me I'm exaggerating and don't tell me I'm, uhm, over analyzing. Don't tell me any of this. You people had better start looking at yourselves. You people had better -- you leftist and democrats, you better, if -- if -- if this doesn't represent what you think, then you better get hold of these people and tell them to shut up, because these people, these prominent vocal, leftist type celebrity who are getting all this publicity. I'm gonna tell you something; they're speaking for you. (Several tapping sounds) That's why- that's why everybody thinks that you and they are on the same page, because nobody hears the left pop up and disavow anything these guys are saying.
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Rush: Hi, how are you? Welcome back folks. Rush Limbaugh, having more fun than a human being should be allowed to have. I just scouring the World Net Daily website, it's Joe Farha's website, there's uhh, a story uhh, not uhh, - it's not my line, it be, uhh, thrust of the story...
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...that we're not going to find Saddam Hussein alive because he died. In 1999 of lymph cancer. And that everybody who's been seen on TV as Saddam since, has been a double.
So I read the story, and I kept - OK, who was it that appeared with Dan Rather? So I went and looked at the story and I read the story in its entirety, and they cite these body doubles that might have been appearing on TV since Saddam was supposedly hidden in that bunker in the first day of the war, and doubles have been performing as Saddam - there's no reference as to who it was if Saddam is dead, that did the interview with Dan Rather. This is the second time Rather has interviewed Saddam. You would think that Dan Rather might know - we can't assume so, he might know, if the Saddam he spoke to this year was not the same Saddam he spoke to in '91.
No, no seriously now, he did. I'm intrigued by all these Saddam theories. Come on, Mr. Startly, don't give me that, you know everybody else is, too. We're all wondering where Saddam is. We all want to know if that blast got him, or if he's in Libya, or if he's in Syria, or if he's on life support somewhere in a bunker. Not that it matters to anything ultimately, but - I'll tell you what - let me tell you this; let me advance a little theory.
See what you think about this. In terms of the Iraqi people, do you think, because of the reign of terror, that this man has engaged in over the years, do you think that the Iraqi people are going to need to see a body before they'll believe he's actually gone and out of their lives? We take over. We democratize, we do whatever, the Saddam regime is gone, do you think the people of Iraq are going to need to see - or if they don't see a body of Saddam, are they going to live in perpetual fear that Saddam or his minions are lurking somewhere to come back and, you know, order death squads to make nighttime raids against them, or whatever?
Well, we'll wait and see. It's tough for us to say, because we've never lived with such fear, but they have. And the fear is derived from one man. And if there is no proof to them that this guy is history, will there ever really be, at least in this generation, the genuine peace we're all hoping? We would hope so, and you would think so, but not having lived through what they have, this could be a relevant thing. It might be necessary here to have a body if Saddam is indeed dead.
So, anyway, I read this story. He'll never be found because he died in 1999 of cancer, OK, well, who did Rather talk to then? I mean, no, seriously, it's one thing for the Iraqis to be able to run videotape of a body double with no audio and to show him meeting with people - we don't know when those - even before the war started, you know all day it was the same tape rolled over and over, Saddam greeting somebody, sitting there, smoking a cigar. It was only two or three different scenes. Of Saddam, meeting with those two wacko sons of his.
And now of course there's this new series of video, that there's only two of them, and there's that one shot of Saddam wearing glasses after the attack, but if he really died - and I do know he had cancer - this is not news to me, but I thought it was prostate cancer, I thought it was dealt with. Here comes the lymph node cancer story now, and it does seem to me that Dan Rather would know. He talked to him. He interviewed him.
Here is Tina in Middleton WI, thanks for waiting, Tina, I appreciate it.
[Tina] Hey, two and a half hour on-hold dittoes.
[RL] Wow, has it been that long?
[Tina] I've been on hold since eleven. So, I want to make a point. First, Waco's civilian casualties were 100%. That was just, something came to mind. But my real point is about Jessica. Why do they hate her so much? Why do they hate this, you know, this POW who was rescued? I mean, it's almost like they want to...
[RL] Wait, who is "they", when you say why do they hate her?
[Tina] Well, like the media, and the liberal media, the papers, first of all, I'm against women in combat. But, she was there. And I think she's a total hero. And you know what? Because I - I mean I totally support her, that you know, she was in combat, I don't agree with...
[RL] But wait a minute, what are you reading that is causing you to ask this question? You mean they're downplaying her...
[Tina] Well, they're saying that she didn't join because she's a patriot, she only joined because she needed work, and she, couldn't find a job. And it's almost like they wanted her to come out and whine and complain and be a victim on that stretcher, instead of having a smile on her face. And it would have made them feel better that she would have, you know, said something against Bush, or...
[RL] OK, hang on, let me explain something to people who may not know what you're talking about. 'Cause this is true, the newspaper accounts have gone overboard, the New York Times and the Washington Post have both gone overboard to say, "she only joined the military as a means of going to college." As a means of getting an education...
[Tina] But, how can they say that...
[RL] Wait, wait a minute, they don't say it, but the implication, the inference is clear, "she had no intention of actually serving, she had no intention, she just was doing a shortcut here to get an education." And I guess you're taking that as...
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on the sort of an insult to her patriotism.
Tina: Because the liberals, the liberals out there are always saying they're for females and women in combat. Maybe she's not ugly enough, I don't know why they hate her so much, but if - I think they hate her because she represents the new generation. She is 19 years old. She had to have joined after 9-11. She had to have known what she was getting into. She is 19 years old. She is not 35 and she is not part of the Bill Clinton generation. She is a young woman whose generation, I believe, and, unfortunately, I'm in the Bill Clinton generation, but I believe that her generation is going to totally go back to the way things maybe used to be. She believes in God, she's a patriot, she's not whining about being a P.O.W. You know, she had a smile on her face, she didn't tell her story, and try to become a victim. All she's done. . .
Rush: All this is true, by the way.
Tina: they hate her.
Rush: All this is true. That's a good point. Let me ask a question, then. As a result of your phone call, here, may I just put a question out there. What is so wrong about joining the Army or the armed forces as a means to seek an education?
Tina: Well, there's nothing
Rush: What's wrong with that? Wait, wait, what's wrong with it? The Army even recruits on that basis. What's wrong with it? Her family didn't have the money to send her to school, so she wants to go to the Army, so she goes to the Army, she gets a [?bloit1.20] she went, she's in a maintenance division, they take a wrong turn, she's taken prisoner, she dealt with it, she dealt with it heroically. I'm agreeing with - So what's the point? Why does why she joined matter?
Tina: Well, I mean I'm sure the liberals would rather have her on welfare, let them pay for her education. But, you know, she took it upon herself that that was a good way to get educated, because
Rush: You know something? This is an excellent point. I hadn't thought of this, but it is an excellent point. Here is a woman, and I made this point, actually, earlier. She's a sterling example for feminists, and they're not doing one thing to recognize her. In fact, I don't know if this is - now Tina, you may be right. I'll have to read these stories more carefully. I wouldn't say they hate her. I wouldn't go off so far as to say they hate her. But they are really playing up this reason for her joining the military that had nothing to do with seeking combat or any of this, but so what? When faced with it, she dealt with it. When she was deployed, she didn't say, "Hey, I didn't sign up for this! I only wanted to go to school." She went.
No, she's not gonna be woman of the year. Not with this crowd. Still, there clearly is some sort of resentment here. I'm look, Tina, I don't think the resentment is based on the reasons that she stated she joined the military and all that. I, she just, as I said earlier, she doesn't fit the liberal-feminist mold of the ideal woman. You know, this is not the kind of woman that feminists want to get behind and sponsor. Just like they didn't care to help Paula Jones; she's a trailer-park babe.
Let me tell you something. Feminism, the militant feminists, the NAGs, the truth be known, these people are nothing more than class snobs. They are elitists and they've got their nose up in the air, and this little girl from West Virginia, just doesn't cut the mustard as far as the feminists are concerned. But Tina, don't sweat it. The way she's being portrayed in these newspaper stories, at least the way you've seen it, is not how most people are looking at her.
And now, also, I want to remind you of this, Tina. Based on some e-mails I have gotten here and read, it's not just the, quote-unquote, liberal media that has a problem with this woman. The two-inch crowd is really threatened by this little girl out there, this young woman. I mean, I've got some of the most hateful e-mail I've ever seen from people who, I can tell you, are not liberals. They think that there is a PC conspiracy going on to build this woman's achievements up and they think she's been lied about. That she didn't act heroically. There is no witnesses.
How come everybody with her died or is unaccounted. How come she fired all that ammo until there wasn't any left, and she survived. A lot of people are not believing her story. Or the story that the military is putting out, for whatever reasons. So it's just not the left that's having some trouble with this, but it doesn't matter, in the final result. Doesn't matter. She is what she is, she did what she did, and the balance of Americans will see it for what it is. I'm glad you called. I appreciate your patience, I really do.
This is Mark, in Billings, Montana. You're next. Thank you for waiting, too.
Mark: Good afternoon, Rush. I was wondering if you could explain to me, uh, Tony Blair, you know, who's certainly a liberal, and, in fact, is best-known in this country as a friend of Bill's [?4.40]. He risked everything, politically. He went totally against, you know, the liberal conventional wisdom. To side with, not to side with George Bush, but to stand up for what he was right, for what he thought was right. And, uh, the difference between him and the American liberals is that is this left wing going to be wasted on American liberals, are they gonna see that in fact, he stood
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Mark: (unintelligible)
Rush: No
Mark: ...a huge winner...
Rush: No, American liberals are looking down at Tony Blair, like they're looking down on Jessica Lynch. American liberals consider Tony Blair a sell-out, for siding with George W. Bush. They thought he was a friend of Clintons. They thought they could rely on Tony Blair to do what Chirac did, to do what Schroder and (Yascar Fisher?) did in Germany, but it's, look it's not hard to understand why Blair did what he did.
There's something that Tony Blair knows, and that is the United Stated and the UK are inseparable as allies in the world. He knew the United States was going to do this. He knew that it was something that needed to be done. Rooting out terrorist, dealing with Saddam. He knew what Clinton said in 1998. He knew what every American president since 1988 has said about Iraq. He knew something had to be done about it, when he realized that American was going to do it, for the sake of his own country's credibility. Tony Blair did what he did. He knew that the United Kingdom's stature and relevance, as a serious player in the world stage depended on them being allied with us in this. And pretty much anything else that we do.
So it wasn't so much, Tony Blair loyalty to a particular person like George W. Bush, or it wasn't Tony Blair loyalty to the United States, although there might have been some. Tony Blair was being loyal to his country. He knew what the liberals in his country didn't know, and he knew what some of the people in his own country didn't know, and that is, the vitality and the -- the -- I think the veritable uhh, stature of the UK depended on that country being with us. He knew it. If -- if they were to, not go on this mission, not be part of it, that's the end of the UK being considered a uhh, serious player on the world stage, and that he knew. Just for the sake of his country. In addition - in addition, to knowing it was the right thing to do. We'll be back after this, and continue, stay with us...
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Rush: Folks, CNN and the New York Times, are reporting that Iraqi civilians are cheering the arrival of Americans in Baghdad. Well uhh, CNN reporting on the outskirts of Baghdad. Iraqi civilians are cheering uhh, our arrival now that they're convinced the Saddam regime is crumbling and we have apparently taken Saddam International Airport and of course there's a strategic reason for that. I mean we can, that airport's very valuable, as we fly, supplies and personnel in and out of there, uhm, and prevent the Iraqi's from using it as well, but suppose, I think the New York Times is reporting that uhh, the Iraqi's at the airport are cheering our arrival there.
(Tapping sound) So the military thought two things would happen. Before this war started, let's -- let's remember, and the USA has a story on this today, by the way. But the military told us they expected two things to happen when this war started. One was, the regular Iraqi army would practically fall apart and cease to exist and that's true. That happened. The other thing they told us was, regular Iraqi civilians would cheer our arrival, and remember the newspapers and the media, from day one, tried to find evidence this wasn't happening, and of course when it wasn't happening it can be chalked up to fear.
And we did go in there in 1991 and we left. We told them we would sponsor an uprising if they would up -- rise up against Hussein we'd be there to help em out and we fled. Because in a UN resolution saying we uhh, didn't have permission to go get Saddam. And they got -- they got -- well, they got kicked, all across the country. There was some doubt that we were going to be paper tigers again, showing up and then leaving. Now that they're convinced we're there for good, the Saddam regime is history; they're cheering our arrival, through out the country. And I would go so far as to say if CNN and New York Times are reporting it, then the odds are, it's really happening. I mean it's probably happening all over the place in droves. If they are eluding to what happening in these two places.
Cory, West Chester County, New York. You've been on hold for a long time too. I uhh, sorry about that, but I appreciate it...
Cory: Yeah, Rush I was on for about three hours almost, uhh, glad to talk with ya. I got three cousins over there fighting in the war and half a dozen students, too and I'm a little concerned about the war spreading to uhh, Iran, and also to Syria. Whether or not you think we could handle, uhh, getting involved in those two countries as almost an immediate follow up to what were doing in Iraq. And I also got a follow up question about France, and how you feel about them?
Rush: All right, first off uhm, uh, Syria and Iran, I - I did an interview with Michael Ledeen, who's a uhh, terrorists expert, written books, and he is really focused on Iran. And I did an interview with him for the "Limbo Letter" and he's, "Oh, no, we don't have any intention of military action in Iran." He uhh, and so don't worry about that, he said, " In fact, military action in Iran would might, probably would hurt us." uhh, that it's not going to be necessary, if this goes well in Iraq, I mean -- the- the Iranian people are ready to over throw that regime. Nobody knows it because it's not being genuinely or generally reported, but there are millions of people protesting weekly in that country. The Mullahs are losing their grasp and uhh, all we need to do is supply moral support according to Ledeen.
Syria is -- is -- is -- is another thing. That's in a terrorist central as well. I have no idea, what our plans, if any, are in Syria. But I wouldn't be worried if it did widen in Syria. In fact, what I have heard said, is that Syria is actually sending people in to help the Iraqi's and they themselves are pretty much opening themselves up to attack. They could have stayed out of it, and they could have protected themselves, but if they want to get involved, they're almost begging for us to come in and do something.
Cory: Yeah, I - I, they got to watch what they're doing. Listen I wanna, another thing about the Columbia professor, had I been in the audience, uhh, I would of given him a broken nose. Uhh, given what he was saying about killing Americans, that includes my family and uhh, I didn't like that at all. Uhm, I do want to ask you how you feel about the French, uhm, particularly in view of the fact that uhh, they had uhm, victimized uh, hundreds of American artist uhh, back in the 1976, to celebrate our Bicentennial. Nobody really knows about this story and I wonder if you would be interested in telling people about it.
Rush: Well, I'd love to cept I don't have time. I'm down here to about forty-five seconds max in this segment. Uhm, the French, in general, at - at this point to me the French are irrelevant and I think at best, it's be best if they stayed that way. The French proved themselves irrelevant here, they're not a world power. I don't even think they deserve a seat in the Security Counsel, uhm, they do not, they're not even a member of the military side of NATO. So that's how we ought to deal with NATO. With the non -- military side. I think the French are best ignored. Uhh, (thumping sound) that's what they fear the most, we ought to deliver. We'll be back in just a second, and continue...
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Rush: They found a big tunnel system under Saddam International Airport that goes all the way to the Tigres River, my friends. Who knows what else they'll find- and the Iraqi's have released another video of Saddam with his henchmen, it can't possibly be new.
There's no way these guys'll be conducting a meeting as casually as they appeared to be. We'll see you tomorrow, as time has expired for today. Back in twenty-one hours amd we'll look forward to it.
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